Terry Kearns

With a biological agent, it's a whole different level of what's going on because you can't see it, you can't taste it, you can't smell it.

With a biological agent, it's a whole different level of what's going on because you can't see it, you can't taste it, you can't smell it.

It wasn't dangerous levels because people weren't, you know, it wasn't getting up in the air and people weren't getting sick by it. But it was enough to let us know that of all of those mailboxes, only one had the anthrax in it.

It wasn't dangerous levels because people weren't, you know, it wasn't getting up in the air and people weren't getting sick by it. But it was enough to let us know that of all of those mailboxes, only one had the anthrax in it.

When you're in a search warrant, you have one chance.

When you're in a search warrant, you have one chance.

Everybody is trying to be on their top game because this is high stakes. So it had to be a very extensive search. We didn't know if more attacks were going to occur. So everyone was on edge because of that.

Everybody is trying to be on their top game because this is high stakes. So it had to be a very extensive search. We didn't know if more attacks were going to occur. So everyone was on edge because of that.

We get a room ready at the FBI headquarters and I have Warren come down. We ended up telling him, we're going to show you something and it's going to be disturbing and it's going to upset you, but we're going to show you who your friend is.

We get a room ready at the FBI headquarters and I have Warren come down. We ended up telling him, we're going to show you something and it's going to be disturbing and it's going to upset you, but we're going to show you who your friend is.

The conversation kept going right to the edge, and then it would stop, and it would go to the edge, and it would stop.

The conversation kept going right to the edge, and then it would stop, and it would go to the edge, and it would stop.

We had a fear that if Mark told him what happened, that, you know, Mark could take a rock to his head down there.

We had a fear that if Mark told him what happened, that, you know, Mark could take a rock to his head down there.

If a red glow stick came out, then we knew we were gonna take Mark out at that point.

If a red glow stick came out, then we knew we were gonna take Mark out at that point.

That's a lot of stress for a guy like Warren.

That's a lot of stress for a guy like Warren.

I knocked on the door, and Mark's wife, Peggy, finally came to the door. And I asked her if she knew where her husband was at. And she said, yeah, he's in his office. I knew damn well he was in the back of one of our police cars.

I knocked on the door, and Mark's wife, Peggy, finally came to the door. And I asked her if she knew where her husband was at. And she said, yeah, he's in his office. I knew damn well he was in the back of one of our police cars.

His computer screen is up and still has porn on it.

His computer screen is up and still has porn on it.

We very well might be looking at an excitement-based arsonist.

We very well might be looking at an excitement-based arsonist.

I told him, hey, grab some popcorn, go down to the basement, pull up some TVs, I want you to go through frame by frame, and there's no fast-forwarding.

I told him, hey, grab some popcorn, go down to the basement, pull up some TVs, I want you to go through frame by frame, and there's no fast-forwarding.

He could say, hey, I was just marketing it for them. I didn't light them. Are there any footprints, any shoe prints, any fingerprints, or any eyewitnesses that can say he was at a fire scene? The answer to all those is no.

He could say, hey, I was just marketing it for them. I didn't light them. Are there any footprints, any shoe prints, any fingerprints, or any eyewitnesses that can say he was at a fire scene? The answer to all those is no.

He had said, I don't think that he's doing this, and without more info, I'm not gonna do what you guys want.

He had said, I don't think that he's doing this, and without more info, I'm not gonna do what you guys want.

Which ultimately is a lot more important than one would think.

Which ultimately is a lot more important than one would think.

The fact that he is out there getting off on this is one of the key pieces of evidence that got us to Warren Jeroms.

The fact that he is out there getting off on this is one of the key pieces of evidence that got us to Warren Jeroms.

Who is this guy? You felt like you were one-upped all the time. Trent was upset.

Who is this guy? You felt like you were one-upped all the time. Trent was upset.

You've put so much time and effort and work, and this person who you feel has been outsmarting you, you finally were able to catch them in the act.

You've put so much time and effort and work, and this person who you feel has been outsmarting you, you finally were able to catch them in the act.

But kind of a conservative excitement, because you don't know for sure, is it really him, and is it only him?

But kind of a conservative excitement, because you don't know for sure, is it really him, and is it only him?

He kind of was brainstorming ideas on what we could do.

He kind of was brainstorming ideas on what we could do.