Tessa Fleming

From your point of view, how deeply did that mindset run through the organisation as a whole?

And what does it really tell us, I suppose, about the internal culture of the Kinahan cartel?

Robin, at the height of the Kinnehan-Hutch feud, you know, the scale of the violence was really staggering, particularly in the immediate aftermath of the Regency shooting in 2016.

You know, there was so much bloodshed, there was so much violence.

And as you say, innocent people were getting caught up in the attacks and there were just so many lives being lost.

Inside the Kinahan organisation, was there ever any real questioning of how reckless and destructive the gang's approach to violence had become?

Just when you're talking about Noel Kirwan or Noel Duckett Kirwan, his name has been popping up in court.

And as you say, this is a man who had no involvement in criminality, yet he was killed in December 2016.

And I suppose when you hear about gangland violence, you would hear the word or the term gangland.

senseless quite a bit.

But in this particular case, it seems to be an extreme example.

And we've been hearing from Noel Kirwan's daughter Donna in court as well.

She gave quite a fiery and emotional victim impact statement.

So just tell me, what did she have to say?

Robin, we've heard a stream of striking evidence in recent days that I suppose offers a rare glimpse into the mindset driving the Kinahan cartel.

And with these newly released encrypted messages now in the mix, do you think that they'll become a crucial piece of the puzzle in linking other Kinahan associates with different murders and separate killings?

And I suppose potentially widening the net of this entire investigation into the Kinahans?

And then I suppose you have Daniel Kinnehan over in the UAE.

He's awaiting extradition.

So I wonder if the fall of Sean McGovern will have an impact on the case of Daniel Kinnehan.