Thaddeus Johnson

That's lazy governments are taking the easy way out when it comes to governing these things, right?

And not doing the harder work.

But think about it.

Part of the thing as a mayor is maintaining order, right?

And so perhaps, even though we don't see that it reduces crime, right?

Perhaps that we see because the fact that it doesn't have any long-term effects on keeping juveniles or communities safe, right?

There's no real strong evidence that's showing that.

But if you kind of read the tea leaves, you think about if I'm a citizen...

and I saw what happened in the Navy yard, right?

As a mayor, I cannot afford to do nothing.

So I can see it as a temporary, almost as a symbolic way of governing and maintaining order, but we shouldn't lean into it and rely on it.

So with juveniles, the best thing is prevention.

Right.

And we can't expect that we're going to have 100 percent effectiveness in reforms or things that we do.

It's also a suite of things and not one thing.

So my juvenile crime is a small portion of all of our crime.

Right.

So we can't afford to throw every resource and means at it.

And it's also unfair to ask police to police us out of this.

Right.