Thaddeus Johnson

hold them accountable, but also give them a path out.

And we just can't view this as a parent problem because they're treated as a bad parent or you don't care.

You're probably struggling too.

And so it's our responsibility to kind of help fill in those gaps.

So enforce where enforcement needs to be at, but don't throw away the key.

Let's find the beauty in salvaging lives and not destroying them.

Well, you have to kind of forecast.

I mean, you stay in a reaction mode, right?

And you have to also be realistic.

Like, so having those events, I think y'all had a few weekends ago after the takeover, they had like this family-friendly event somewhere.

And so one thing, we have to be realistic.

And what is the realistic reduction in crime?

Or what is...

What is the amount of crime that we expect as a benchmark before we can start considering where do we go?

So we have to have some real issues, but it also, I mean, conversations, but also it has to be coordinated.

But enforcement, accountability, opportunity, supports centering the schools, centering the communities and the families.

You know, the research shows that that stuff works and it can't be one shot in the dark.

You got to be ready for five, 10, 15, 20, 30 years to make that investment.

It's not just, you know, because as soon as you stop making that investment,

We're going to see things perhaps start to backslide.