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Wow. Okay. Never heard of that.

Wow. Okay. Never heard of that.

You can't top that one, can you?

You can't top that one, can you?

You've done a lot of cool stuff. How did you get into this world?

You've done a lot of cool stuff. How did you get into this world?

Usually.

Usually.

On platforms like the web, it's so easy. You can get to that moment in minutes because you can load up their favorite web page and show them how to open up the dev tools and change the background color or something or delete a line and the title disappears. And you see that aha moment very quickly because And I know in embedded systems, a lot of times now it's the blinking lights, right?

On platforms like the web, it's so easy. You can get to that moment in minutes because you can load up their favorite web page and show them how to open up the dev tools and change the background color or something or delete a line and the title disappears. And you see that aha moment very quickly because And I know in embedded systems, a lot of times now it's the blinking lights, right?

It's the Arduino or whatever it is. And that moment of turning a light on, that's so cool. When you mentor, when you teach, what do you do? How do you get people to that moment? What do you show them? And how long does that take? Because it has historically been considerably more steps in embedded than on platforms like the web.

It's the Arduino or whatever it is. And that moment of turning a light on, that's so cool. When you mentor, when you teach, what do you do? How do you get people to that moment? What do you show them? And how long does that take? Because it has historically been considerably more steps in embedded than on platforms like the web.

I had no idea it existed. How big is the chasm between... I'm able to use a simulator in Python or maybe it's even in C. Or I'm even able to get something onto some device and have it do stuff. And your world of I'm writing professional embedded software for autonomous vehicles that go underwater and sense things. How big is that chasm?

I had no idea it existed. How big is the chasm between... I'm able to use a simulator in Python or maybe it's even in C. Or I'm even able to get something onto some device and have it do stuff. And your world of I'm writing professional embedded software for autonomous vehicles that go underwater and sense things. How big is that chasm?

Well, there's a sideways application of Parkinson's law here, which, you know, Parkinson's law is the one that the scope of a project will expand to match the time allowed for the project. Something like this. That's a bad paraphrase.

Well, there's a sideways application of Parkinson's law here, which, you know, Parkinson's law is the one that the scope of a project will expand to match the time allowed for the project. Something like this. That's a bad paraphrase.

And I was just teaching my kids about budgeting this morning and was talking about how if you're not diligent that your lifestyle will expand to match the size of your income, right? Sometimes beyond. It's just kind of like a human nature thing. And I think our software expands to... you know, match the size of the hardware that it's running on to use every last bit.

And I was just teaching my kids about budgeting this morning and was talking about how if you're not diligent that your lifestyle will expand to match the size of your income, right? Sometimes beyond. It's just kind of like a human nature thing. And I think our software expands to... you know, match the size of the hardware that it's running on to use every last bit.

And has allowed for many of us, web developers like myself included, to be lazy and do things the easy way, the fast way, the cheap way. But in that embedded world where like every resource counts and it's heavily constrained, you must have to know all of the all the little tricks, the way to manage your memory so as not to bloat or leak. Do you like, I mean, you must like that.

And has allowed for many of us, web developers like myself included, to be lazy and do things the easy way, the fast way, the cheap way. But in that embedded world where like every resource counts and it's heavily constrained, you must have to know all of the all the little tricks, the way to manage your memory so as not to bloat or leak. Do you like, I mean, you must like that.