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Gotcha. So you mentioned self-driving cars and you mentioned LIDAR. So I have to ask your take as an embedded person on Tesla's proposition that they can get to autonomous or whatever level you need to get to with cameras only. And then Waymo's using LiDARs. Other people are using LiDARs.

Gotcha. So you mentioned self-driving cars and you mentioned LIDAR. So I have to ask your take as an embedded person on Tesla's proposition that they can get to autonomous or whatever level you need to get to with cameras only. And then Waymo's using LiDARs. Other people are using LiDARs.

How important is the LiDAR, do you think, pure opinion, versus having a bunch of cameras and letting that be your only input or your only data streams?

How important is the LiDAR, do you think, pure opinion, versus having a bunch of cameras and letting that be your only input or your only data streams?

That's what a lot of people say.

That's what a lot of people say.

Right. Like all we have is eyes, right?

Right. Like all we have is eyes, right?

Such as?

Such as?

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Okay. I'm tracking you.

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Right. Yeah, I think your point about the horizontal scale, Alicia, if that's just the way I'll say it, is that we have crazily bad 16-year-old drivers... But it's not like at a specific moment in time, this percentage of all cars on the road are going to turn into that.

Right. Yeah, I think your point about the horizontal scale, Alicia, if that's just the way I'll say it, is that we have crazily bad 16-year-old drivers... But it's not like at a specific moment in time, this percentage of all cars on the road are going to turn into that.

The error that happens spread across a fleet of cars all running the same software, for instance, that makes the same mistake all at once. is catastrophic. Of course, the famous or infamous, I think this was the one that the first Tesla that killed somebody that was in FSD mode was because it came over a hill and the sun was coming up And the sun shone into all the cameras at once.

The error that happens spread across a fleet of cars all running the same software, for instance, that makes the same mistake all at once. is catastrophic. Of course, the famous or infamous, I think this was the one that the first Tesla that killed somebody that was in FSD mode was because it came over a hill and the sun was coming up And the sun shone into all the cameras at once.

I'm just giving my depiction of what happened. It's roughly that. And the thing, I mean, it couldn't handle it. Well, of course, a human couldn't handle that either because your eyes are completely blinded. And so likely, maybe the same result in that one instance. But if something like that happens across 50,000 cars at the same time.

I'm just giving my depiction of what happened. It's roughly that. And the thing, I mean, it couldn't handle it. Well, of course, a human couldn't handle that either because your eyes are completely blinded. And so likely, maybe the same result in that one instance. But if something like that happens across 50,000 cars at the same time.