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And he said, and this is kind of how Rick talks. He actually talks like this. He's like, because it's real. You know, people, when something's early, they're not thinking about how it's going to be received. You're not thinking about whether or not your corporate sponsors are gonna be happy. This is why Rick, you know, remember Rick,

And he said, and this is kind of how Rick talks. He actually talks like this. He's like, because it's real. You know, people, when something's early, they're not thinking about how it's going to be received. You're not thinking about whether or not your corporate sponsors are gonna be happy. This is why Rick, you know, remember Rick,

And he said, and this is kind of how Rick talks. He actually talks like this. He's like, because it's real. You know, people, when something's early, they're not thinking about how it's going to be received. You're not thinking about whether or not your corporate sponsors are gonna be happy. This is why Rick, you know, remember Rick,

produced Beastie Boys, LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Adele, Kanye. He's doing classical music stuff now, country. And he tends to work with people at the beginning and then not necessarily again, maybe on a song or two. And I asked him why.

produced Beastie Boys, LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Adele, Kanye. He's doing classical music stuff now, country. And he tends to work with people at the beginning and then not necessarily again, maybe on a song or two. And I asked him why.

produced Beastie Boys, LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Adele, Kanye. He's doing classical music stuff now, country. And he tends to work with people at the beginning and then not necessarily again, maybe on a song or two. And I asked him why.

And he's like, because at the beginning, they're in what Josh Waitzkin, the great chess player, has described as the pre-consciousness phase of creativity. You're not trying to defend a title, right? You know, you're not trying to defend a title. You're not thinking about how it's going to be received because you really have nothing to compare it to. You've got to lose. Yeah.

And he's like, because at the beginning, they're in what Josh Waitzkin, the great chess player, has described as the pre-consciousness phase of creativity. You're not trying to defend a title, right? You know, you're not trying to defend a title. You're not thinking about how it's going to be received because you really have nothing to compare it to. You've got to lose. Yeah.

And he's like, because at the beginning, they're in what Josh Waitzkin, the great chess player, has described as the pre-consciousness phase of creativity. You're not trying to defend a title, right? You know, you're not trying to defend a title. You're not thinking about how it's going to be received because you really have nothing to compare it to. You've got to lose. Yeah.

Listen, when Chris Cole 360 flipped down Wallenberg, someone was filming it. Right. But after he did that, I'm sure that he thought about, God, like, how do I, how do I like supersede that the next time? How do you, but when, when it's the next big thing, you're just thinking about the next thing. And there's something really beautiful to that.

Listen, when Chris Cole 360 flipped down Wallenberg, someone was filming it. Right. But after he did that, I'm sure that he thought about, God, like, how do I, how do I like supersede that the next time? How do you, but when, when it's the next big thing, you're just thinking about the next thing. And there's something really beautiful to that.

Listen, when Chris Cole 360 flipped down Wallenberg, someone was filming it. Right. But after he did that, I'm sure that he thought about, God, like, how do I, how do I like supersede that the next time? How do you, but when, when it's the next big thing, you're just thinking about the next thing. And there's something really beautiful to that.

And that's what people tend to gravitate toward, whether or not it's media, podcasting, skateboarding, motocross. I don't care what it is. We can feel when something is real. In fact, Rick has this great saying, and I love it because one time I saw this whole thing in the media related to somebody I knew, and it turned out that their whole company was just a complete sham.

And that's what people tend to gravitate toward, whether or not it's media, podcasting, skateboarding, motocross. I don't care what it is. We can feel when something is real. In fact, Rick has this great saying, and I love it because one time I saw this whole thing in the media related to somebody I knew, and it turned out that their whole company was just a complete sham.

And that's what people tend to gravitate toward, whether or not it's media, podcasting, skateboarding, motocross. I don't care what it is. We can feel when something is real. In fact, Rick has this great saying, and I love it because one time I saw this whole thing in the media related to somebody I knew, and it turned out that their whole company was just a complete sham.

At least that's what the media was claiming. And he said to me, he goes, It's all lies. And I said, yeah, apparently it's all lies. And he said, no, no, no, no. Everything is made up. He said, there's only two things that are true. Nature, like the laws of chemistry, biology, physics, and professional wrestling. He said, because everyone knows professional wrestling is made up.

At least that's what the media was claiming. And he said to me, he goes, It's all lies. And I said, yeah, apparently it's all lies. And he said, no, no, no, no. Everything is made up. He said, there's only two things that are true. Nature, like the laws of chemistry, biology, physics, and professional wrestling. He said, because everyone knows professional wrestling is made up.

At least that's what the media was claiming. And he said to me, he goes, It's all lies. And I said, yeah, apparently it's all lies. And he said, no, no, no, no. Everything is made up. He said, there's only two things that are true. Nature, like the laws of chemistry, biology, physics, and professional wrestling. He said, because everyone knows professional wrestling is made up.

And Rick watches 12 hours a week of professional wrestling. And when I go and see him and we watch professional wrestling, I'm like, why do you watch so much professional wrestling? And he said, you know, it relaxes me. And also you can see all the theater of life there. And he also likes that people don't actually get hurt. But you're also wondering, wait, was that really part of the act?

And Rick watches 12 hours a week of professional wrestling. And when I go and see him and we watch professional wrestling, I'm like, why do you watch so much professional wrestling? And he said, you know, it relaxes me. And also you can see all the theater of life there. And he also likes that people don't actually get hurt. But you're also wondering, wait, was that really part of the act?