Thierry Henry

So what was the issue here?

One thing that I will say that, yes, it is kind of weird in a way, is that how people go about us not wanting the league, winning the league.

Sorry, a lot of people are like, anything but Arsenal winning the league, which I'm sitting here and I'm like, wait a minute, usually you kind of...

You know, I wanted them to win the league when I was playing because I wanted Jamie to win the league.

I wanted Stevie G to win the league.

You know, whether I like Liverpool or not, it's just, you know, you root normally for the underdog, for the guy or the team that couldn't do it or failed.

But for some reasons, a lot of people don't want Arsenal to win the league.

Do you think that's the case, Jamie?

You know, that's when you could see Odegaard on the ball more often than not.

That's where you could see Bukayo also a tiny bit more lively.

But I think Jamie is making a great point here that I can reverse on the other side.

At one point, you need to find your comfort zone as a coach.

I think, as you said, Jamie, he felt obliged to kind of have that Pep-brand style of football.

I'm not saying that's the case, but maybe he's more comfortable playing that way.

And one thing that I noticed over the years, whatever style of football he was playing, whatever style of football he was playing, this is not, you know, it's not a bad thing.

That's your trait of character.

When sometimes the game was on the line in a nil-nil, or you're one nil up, more often than not in any style, he often thought about not losing the game.

not losing the game.

So I said at one point at that moment, I always said the fear of winning started to creep in some of those games.

So maybe he went about it a different way.