Thomas Campbell
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So I started thinking about it, and when I did, I saw in my mind, I saw this roll, just like it was coming off a roll, and there was my programs. coming down there, and then I saw one that was red. Most of them were black on white, like you'd expect.
So I started thinking about it, and when I did, I saw in my mind, I saw this roll, just like it was coming off a roll, and there was my programs. coming down there, and then I saw one that was red. Most of them were black on white, like you'd expect.
It's like looking at a printout, and it would go through my card deck, and I'd see one with red, and I'd stop it, and I'd look at it, and noted it, and then I'd find the next one. I found like three or four of them, and then next time I got back in the lab, I looked at those cards, and I found errors on them, and I said, holy shit. What's going on?
It's like looking at a printout, and it would go through my card deck, and I'd see one with red, and I'd stop it, and I'd look at it, and noted it, and then I'd find the next one. I found like three or four of them, and then next time I got back in the lab, I looked at those cards, and I found errors on them, and I said, holy shit. What's going on?
It's like looking at a printout, and it would go through my card deck, and I'd see one with red, and I'd stop it, and I'd look at it, and noted it, and then I'd find the next one. I found like three or four of them, and then next time I got back in the lab, I looked at those cards, and I found errors on them, and I said, holy shit. What's going on?
Now, I'm a young 26-year-old physicist, and in my mind, reality can be defined in an operational state. If you can operate on it, if you can do something with it, if you can interact with it, then it's real. If you can't, it's not. And that's, of course, a materialist viewpoint that material stuff is real.
Now, I'm a young 26-year-old physicist, and in my mind, reality can be defined in an operational state. If you can operate on it, if you can do something with it, if you can interact with it, then it's real. If you can't, it's not. And that's, of course, a materialist viewpoint that material stuff is real.
Now, I'm a young 26-year-old physicist, and in my mind, reality can be defined in an operational state. If you can operate on it, if you can do something with it, if you can interact with it, then it's real. If you can't, it's not. And that's, of course, a materialist viewpoint that material stuff is real.
Stuff that's not material is either not real or irrelevant because you can't interact with it. So what's the point? So when I got that, that startled me, and I started to play with it more. And I found some errors that indeed were card punch errors. And I thought, that's not even errors in code. How do I know that that card has a punch error? Because it's very hard to tell.
Stuff that's not material is either not real or irrelevant because you can't interact with it. So what's the point? So when I got that, that startled me, and I started to play with it more. And I found some errors that indeed were card punch errors. And I thought, that's not even errors in code. How do I know that that card has a punch error? Because it's very hard to tell.
Stuff that's not material is either not real or irrelevant because you can't interact with it. So what's the point? So when I got that, that startled me, and I started to play with it more. And I found some errors that indeed were card punch errors. And I thought, that's not even errors in code. How do I know that that card has a punch error? Because it's very hard to tell.
When you look at it, they all look fine. You can't tell something that's a tenth of a millimeter out of line. But I realized, geez, there's a whole other part of reality that has to do with consciousness that I don't know anything about. I'm a physicist. Physicists model reality. That's what they do. And here I was, right in my face, there's another part to reality that's consciousness-centered.
When you look at it, they all look fine. You can't tell something that's a tenth of a millimeter out of line. But I realized, geez, there's a whole other part of reality that has to do with consciousness that I don't know anything about. I'm a physicist. Physicists model reality. That's what they do. And here I was, right in my face, there's another part to reality that's consciousness-centered.
When you look at it, they all look fine. You can't tell something that's a tenth of a millimeter out of line. But I realized, geez, there's a whole other part of reality that has to do with consciousness that I don't know anything about. I'm a physicist. Physicists model reality. That's what they do. And here I was, right in my face, there's another part to reality that's consciousness-centered.
So that's really where it all started. And then some years later, I left graduate school, I take a job. My boss tosses me a book called Journeys Out of the Body by Bob Monroe. He said, hey, we found the, you know, read, first he said, read the book, tell me what you think. So I read the book and I said, eh, is the guy making it up to sell books? Or is it real?
So that's really where it all started. And then some years later, I left graduate school, I take a job. My boss tosses me a book called Journeys Out of the Body by Bob Monroe. He said, hey, we found the, you know, read, first he said, read the book, tell me what you think. So I read the book and I said, eh, is the guy making it up to sell books? Or is it real?
So that's really where it all started. And then some years later, I left graduate school, I take a job. My boss tosses me a book called Journeys Out of the Body by Bob Monroe. He said, hey, we found the, you know, read, first he said, read the book, tell me what you think. So I read the book and I said, eh, is the guy making it up to sell books? Or is it real?
If it's real, wow, because I'd had this other experience and I knew things of the mind could be
If it's real, wow, because I'd had this other experience and I knew things of the mind could be
If it's real, wow, because I'd had this other experience and I knew things of the mind could be