Thomas Massey

But let me tell you the category of documents that will eventually be released that haven't been released that you touched on.

We said in the Epstein Files Transparency Act that you have to, the DOJ, FBI, and US attorneys have to release internal memos and emails about decisions on whether to prosecute or not prosecute, about decisions on whether to investigate or not investigate.

And right now, the Attorney General is claiming something called deliberative process privilege that they use when they want to keep Freedom of Information Act files from getting out or to redact them.

They say that, and it's a longstanding rule.

For Freedom of Information Act, that the government only has to give you the final work product.

They don't have to show you their math, the internal deliberations of a policy.

They just have to give you the end point.

But anticipating this and having served on the Judiciary Committee for a long time and having had...

Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray tell me, well, that's the subject of an ongoing investigation and we don't have to give you that or that's deliberative process and we don't have to give you that.

Anticipating that, I put into law that they have to give me that.

And the president signed that law.

And yet they are asserting that my law doesn't apply to their deliberative process privilege.

And they're wrong.

It won't withstand 30 minutes in a courtroom.

Their legal thesis, every first year law student knows that new laws overwrite the ones that existed before.

And so I think eventually there will be a forum.

Some survivor will sue the attorney general or the government for not releasing those particular files and it'll get adjudicated and we'll get more files.

Like, what the hell are we?

What is this?

Well, Pam Bondi, when I cross-examined her in a hearing while she was still attorney general about the Epstein files, she protested to me that, you know, this also went on under the Biden administration.