Thomas Murphy

That's the scene.

that you have in your head.

Now we would take kids and we reconstruct those scenes with them, no adults involved.

And we take older kids and they teach it to younger kids.

It's our step program, our student teacher empathy program.

So we train high schoolers how to construct these bully drills to do circle and we do it age mixed.

Because one of the worst things we ever did in compulsory education was segregate kids by age.

The worst thing you could ever do is take a bunch of seventh grade girls, put them together and hand them a phone.

You take that same seventh grade girl who's a monster and you give her a first or second grader, she'll never be mean to it.

Yeah.

Ever.

Shook practice compassion, which is a different set of neurological circuits in the brain.

So that's what we do.

After these great presentations, K-12, we implement circle because that's where empathy... We have to have spaced repetitive practice, which people don't understand is education is about spaced repetitive practice, and so is every other human skill.

You can't develop compassion and empathy in these things without it being a spaced repetitive practice.

And when do we do that with kids?

No, we put an Instagram reel on and we talk about it and we're like, oh, that sounds great.

But when are you practicing it?

Yeah, yeah.

You used to do it in the barn with grandpa, working on a car with mom, baking with dad.