Thomas Touré

The vessels were brought to port.

The company was told to pay.

But what happened is that the fine was so high, the company was unable to pay it.

So recently we reviewed the fines and we have now $150,000.

No, no, we never let Jami off.

I've just said they requested the ministry to consider the impact of COVID and those who are unable to pay their fines that are accrued were let off.

So you did let them off?

Yes.

But in principle, the government through the cabinet.

has considered that because of the COVID.

It cannot just be thrown out there.

Why not?

We have the data that is available in the ministry and we can make it available.

If you want to know what is happening with regards to infractions, we make them available.

There are two issues you raise.

One, that we do not make the data available.

I've just said we make the data available to you.

On the other hand, you've raised concern that the fishermen say their fishing nets are being caught by trawlers, and that's not also true.

They cut their own nets.

When that happens, artisanal fishing canoes...