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Thomas Zimmer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
147 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

That's what that is about, right? And so that's what they want to do again, purge government, purge all these agencies, departments, every part of the administrative state of government. what they see as the enemy within, and replace them with loyalists.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

That was very much part of all the big right-wing planning, Project 2025 being one of the big planning operations on the right, is of this idea, we need to get rid of these people and we need to find our people to replace them with. That's one part of it. The second part is, they're very clear that their project is fundamentally not popular.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

That was very much part of all the big right-wing planning, Project 2025 being one of the big planning operations on the right, is of this idea, we need to get rid of these people and we need to find our people to replace them with. That's one part of it. The second part is, they're very clear that their project is fundamentally not popular.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

That was very much part of all the big right-wing planning, Project 2025 being one of the big planning operations on the right, is of this idea, we need to get rid of these people and we need to find our people to replace them with. That's one part of it. The second part is, they're very clear that their project is fundamentally not popular.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

If you tell the American people what they actually want to do, people will say, that sounds not great. So they know this will lead to protests, or they are expecting protests. And I think when you hear Russell Vogt talk about his biggest regret from the first Trump administration is precisely that in the summer of 2020, during the George Floyd protests, they did not...

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

If you tell the American people what they actually want to do, people will say, that sounds not great. So they know this will lead to protests, or they are expecting protests. And I think when you hear Russell Vogt talk about his biggest regret from the first Trump administration is precisely that in the summer of 2020, during the George Floyd protests, they did not...

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

If you tell the American people what they actually want to do, people will say, that sounds not great. So they know this will lead to protests, or they are expecting protests. And I think when you hear Russell Vogt talk about his biggest regret from the first Trump administration is precisely that in the summer of 2020, during the George Floyd protests, they did not...

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

invoke the Insurrection Act to use the military to suppress those protests. And they're 100% clear this will not happen again. Next time we'll be ready. They think they had too many of those Federalist Society, RINO lawyers in and around the White House who kind of talked them out of this. Trump wanted to do this in the summer of 2020, but they didn't.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

invoke the Insurrection Act to use the military to suppress those protests. And they're 100% clear this will not happen again. Next time we'll be ready. They think they had too many of those Federalist Society, RINO lawyers in and around the White House who kind of talked them out of this. Trump wanted to do this in the summer of 2020, but they didn't.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

invoke the Insurrection Act to use the military to suppress those protests. And they're 100% clear this will not happen again. Next time we'll be ready. They think they had too many of those Federalist Society, RINO lawyers in and around the White House who kind of talked them out of this. Trump wanted to do this in the summer of 2020, but they didn't.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

They were sort of talked out of it by lawyers, legal counsel, whatever. And so they're 100% clear, this must not happen to us again. Next time, we will absolutely use the military. We will invoke the Insurrection Act. And so that is what they've been preparing. One of his biggest frustrations is precisely this. We were much too lenient. We allowed protests. We shouldn't do this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

They were sort of talked out of it by lawyers, legal counsel, whatever. And so they're 100% clear, this must not happen to us again. Next time, we will absolutely use the military. We will invoke the Insurrection Act. And so that is what they've been preparing. One of his biggest frustrations is precisely this. We were much too lenient. We allowed protests. We shouldn't do this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

They were sort of talked out of it by lawyers, legal counsel, whatever. And so they're 100% clear, this must not happen to us again. Next time, we will absolutely use the military. We will invoke the Insurrection Act. And so that is what they've been preparing. One of his biggest frustrations is precisely this. We were much too lenient. We allowed protests. We shouldn't do this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

Yeah, he himself calls OMB the nerve center of the federal government. And I think he's kind of right about this, or at least you can use it that way. It's always a question of what do you want to do with these institutions and agencies? And for him, and I think you saw this again in the first Trump administration, he became director of OMB in 2019. And

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

Yeah, he himself calls OMB the nerve center of the federal government. And I think he's kind of right about this, or at least you can use it that way. It's always a question of what do you want to do with these institutions and agencies? And for him, and I think you saw this again in the first Trump administration, he became director of OMB in 2019. And

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

Yeah, he himself calls OMB the nerve center of the federal government. And I think he's kind of right about this, or at least you can use it that way. It's always a question of what do you want to do with these institutions and agencies? And for him, and I think you saw this again in the first Trump administration, he became director of OMB in 2019. And

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

Some of his greatest hits were he held up military aid to Ukraine because Trump wanted to pressure the Ukrainian government in terms of delivering dirt on Joe Biden. He directed billions of dollars from the Pentagon to Trump's border wall fever dream. He was the most aggressive proponent of Schedule F. So this is a powerful position if you want to use it that way.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

Some of his greatest hits were he held up military aid to Ukraine because Trump wanted to pressure the Ukrainian government in terms of delivering dirt on Joe Biden. He directed billions of dollars from the Pentagon to Trump's border wall fever dream. He was the most aggressive proponent of Schedule F. So this is a powerful position if you want to use it that way.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

Some of his greatest hits were he held up military aid to Ukraine because Trump wanted to pressure the Ukrainian government in terms of delivering dirt on Joe Biden. He directed billions of dollars from the Pentagon to Trump's border wall fever dream. He was the most aggressive proponent of Schedule F. So this is a powerful position if you want to use it that way.

The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

And he absolutely sees it as a kind of position where you can bend the entire machinery to the will of Donald Trump. And that is, I mean, to be clear, he really sees Donald Trump as a gift from God. That's how he describes him, literally a gift from God, someone who is precisely the right kind of radical figure to lead this counter-revolution.