Tilda Swinton (as Martha)

It was clearly a response to whatever had been in my system. And it was very sobering. And I did wonder if I was, you know, looking at early onset Alzheimer's. And it was with me for, I would say, about eight months and just gradually, gradually lifted. Or it was like...

wading through a marsh it just got lighter and lighter and I was able to track it of course because I was making three feature films during that time for which I had to learn dialogue and the The Wes Anderson project was definitely the worst. I could not remember anything. And then the next project, which was Problemista, Julio Torres' film. Oh, I love that film. I love that film, too.

wading through a marsh it just got lighter and lighter and I was able to track it of course because I was making three feature films during that time for which I had to learn dialogue and the The Wes Anderson project was definitely the worst. I could not remember anything. And then the next project, which was Problemista, Julio Torres' film. Oh, I love that film. I love that film, too.

wading through a marsh it just got lighter and lighter and I was able to track it of course because I was making three feature films during that time for which I had to learn dialogue and the The Wes Anderson project was definitely the worst. I could not remember anything. And then the next project, which was Problemista, Julio Torres' film. Oh, I love that film. I love that film, too.

He was on our show after he made it. Oh, was he? Oh, how wonderful. Yeah, I know. He's a great friend and what a fantastic person he is and a contribution to the planet. He's a wonder. But for that project, I could tell that things were getting a little bit easier, but... Yeah, it was still a stretch. And then I now can't remember. But a few months later, I made another project.

He was on our show after he made it. Oh, was he? Oh, how wonderful. Yeah, I know. He's a great friend and what a fantastic person he is and a contribution to the planet. He's a wonder. But for that project, I could tell that things were getting a little bit easier, but... Yeah, it was still a stretch. And then I now can't remember. But a few months later, I made another project.

He was on our show after he made it. Oh, was he? Oh, how wonderful. Yeah, I know. He's a great friend and what a fantastic person he is and a contribution to the planet. He's a wonder. But for that project, I could tell that things were getting a little bit easier, but... Yeah, it was still a stretch. And then I now can't remember. But a few months later, I made another project.

And that was a little easier again. And I would say I'm pretty much back to speed. But it's taken its toll.

And that was a little easier again. And I would say I'm pretty much back to speed. But it's taken its toll.

And that was a little easier again. And I would say I'm pretty much back to speed. But it's taken its toll.

They have. What a wonderful question, Terry. Lovely to chew this cud with you. I remember the very first Martha in my life, who was my friend, Derek Jarman. And by Martha, you mean somebody who... Who is facing their end. My friend Derek Jarman was diagnosed with HIV in 1988, 1989, and died of AIDS in 1994.

They have. What a wonderful question, Terry. Lovely to chew this cud with you. I remember the very first Martha in my life, who was my friend, Derek Jarman. And by Martha, you mean somebody who... Who is facing their end. My friend Derek Jarman was diagnosed with HIV in 1988, 1989, and died of AIDS in 1994.

They have. What a wonderful question, Terry. Lovely to chew this cud with you. I remember the very first Martha in my life, who was my friend, Derek Jarman. And by Martha, you mean somebody who... Who is facing their end. My friend Derek Jarman was diagnosed with HIV in 1988, 1989, and died of AIDS in 1994.

And when he discovered his diagnosis, he was, at that time, really remarkably open about it publicly, which was, if you can remember that time, anybody listening who can remember that time, and those who can't, I can tell you, was really an extraordinary gesture because people were so frightened. People were being persecuted. People were losing their jobs. People were losing their homes.

And when he discovered his diagnosis, he was, at that time, really remarkably open about it publicly, which was, if you can remember that time, anybody listening who can remember that time, and those who can't, I can tell you, was really an extraordinary gesture because people were so frightened. People were being persecuted. People were losing their jobs. People were losing their homes.

And when he discovered his diagnosis, he was, at that time, really remarkably open about it publicly, which was, if you can remember that time, anybody listening who can remember that time, and those who can't, I can tell you, was really an extraordinary gesture because people were so frightened. People were being persecuted. People were losing their jobs. People were losing their homes.

They were losing their insurance. There were talks about putting people with HIV virus on sort of leper colony islands offshore.

They were losing their insurance. There were talks about putting people with HIV virus on sort of leper colony islands offshore.

They were losing their insurance. There were talks about putting people with HIV virus on sort of leper colony islands offshore.

They were losing, families were disowning them, all sorts of things were happening. Not everybody, of course, but there were these tortuous scenarios that came with the fear around this illness and the fear being born by ignorance, of course, as ever.