Tim Fullerton

With the shutdown stuff, which we can get to in a second here, but like, yeah, Democrats were saying things, but nobody, nobody heard it. Well, here's the thing, you know, like, yeah, go ahead.

With the shutdown stuff, which we can get to in a second here, but like, yeah, Democrats were saying things, but nobody, nobody heard it. Well, here's the thing, you know, like, yeah, go ahead.

With the shutdown stuff, which we can get to in a second here, but like, yeah, Democrats were saying things, but nobody, nobody heard it. Well, here's the thing, you know, like, yeah, go ahead.

Oh, no, that no dust type. Well, that's right.

Oh, no, that no dust type. Well, that's right.

Oh, no, that no dust type. Well, that's right.

So I – for those who don't know, I worked in the Obama administration for five years, and I will push back on the healthcare part of it. And the reason is – and I'm sorry to go inside baseball, but we had – 10 to 15 senators at that point who were almost Republicans. I think even if you had them today, they probably would not be part of the Democratic Party. Ben Nelson in Nebraska is one of them.

So I – for those who don't know, I worked in the Obama administration for five years, and I will push back on the healthcare part of it. And the reason is – and I'm sorry to go inside baseball, but we had – 10 to 15 senators at that point who were almost Republicans. I think even if you had them today, they probably would not be part of the Democratic Party. Ben Nelson in Nebraska is one of them.

So I – for those who don't know, I worked in the Obama administration for five years, and I will push back on the healthcare part of it. And the reason is – and I'm sorry to go inside baseball, but we had – 10 to 15 senators at that point who were almost Republicans. I think even if you had them today, they probably would not be part of the Democratic Party. Ben Nelson in Nebraska is one of them.

Joe Lieberman in Connecticut is another one. And yes, we had 60 or 59 or whatever it was. But the reality was in the – yeah, definitely in quotes. The reality was like – Many Democrats at that point were dead set against Medicare for all and even a public option.

Joe Lieberman in Connecticut is another one. And yes, we had 60 or 59 or whatever it was. But the reality was in the – yeah, definitely in quotes. The reality was like – Many Democrats at that point were dead set against Medicare for all and even a public option.

Joe Lieberman in Connecticut is another one. And yes, we had 60 or 59 or whatever it was. But the reality was in the – yeah, definitely in quotes. The reality was like – Many Democrats at that point were dead set against Medicare for all and even a public option.

And there was a public option in the House bill and it got taken out because Joe Lieberman and Max Baucus from Montana, Ben Nelson from Nebraska all went, hell no. And we needed we couldn't actually lose a voter. So he did, you know, to defend the president a little bit. He he was faced with a choice.

And there was a public option in the House bill and it got taken out because Joe Lieberman and Max Baucus from Montana, Ben Nelson from Nebraska all went, hell no. And we needed we couldn't actually lose a voter. So he did, you know, to defend the president a little bit. He he was faced with a choice.

And there was a public option in the House bill and it got taken out because Joe Lieberman and Max Baucus from Montana, Ben Nelson from Nebraska all went, hell no. And we needed we couldn't actually lose a voter. So he did, you know, to defend the president a little bit. He he was faced with a choice.

Go all in with Medicare for all and fail or get health care coverage for 20 million Americans, which is what we ended up doing. But now we're still fighting that fight. But like – and the other thing – and I know this is going on a little bit. The thing I will critique the president on is that we had built – because I was on the campaign too. We had built a digital force of donors and activists.

Go all in with Medicare for all and fail or get health care coverage for 20 million Americans, which is what we ended up doing. But now we're still fighting that fight. But like – and the other thing – and I know this is going on a little bit. The thing I will critique the president on is that we had built – because I was on the campaign too. We had built a digital force of donors and activists.

Go all in with Medicare for all and fail or get health care coverage for 20 million Americans, which is what we ended up doing. But now we're still fighting that fight. But like – and the other thing – and I know this is going on a little bit. The thing I will critique the president on is that we had built – because I was on the campaign too. We had built a digital force of donors and activists.

And the decision was made after the election that all of that would get rolled into the DNC. There were some of us who thought that that should be an outside entity that would have been used to get electeds to pass the president's agenda. And instead, it got rolled into the DNC and essentially destroyed. Right.

And the decision was made after the election that all of that would get rolled into the DNC. There were some of us who thought that that should be an outside entity that would have been used to get electeds to pass the president's agenda. And instead, it got rolled into the DNC and essentially destroyed. Right.