Tim Geddes

But, I mean, even, like, just normal.

Isn't the Pro Controller on the Switch, too?

Like, it's $80?

I was about to say $90.

Yeah, that's insane.

$90 for the Switch 2 Pro Controller.

So that's the question.

Where's this going to fall between the standard controllers and the Pro level controllers?

Greg.

Yeah.

xbox yeah you are are a pc convert that's right you were playing on the xbox rog ally x love it whatever it is yeah and you steam on it all the time steam dwarfs my use of on it versus the xbox app we've been talking a lot in the last couple years about the

present and future of xbox yeah we know that xbox's next console is going to be essentially what we just saw here with the steam machine but probably a lot more powerful and a lot more expensive what are your thoughts i think if again i think xbox has got to be like ah fuck because i think you're the interesting argument about xbox on the

and then when i want to it's going to work with my handheld like you're talking about an ecosystem that xbox keeps trying to get to and say but this is us and you can play anywhere you play anywhere you play anywhere but it's like guess what i'm already playing steam everywhere i mean yeah the big problem is xbox has an ecosystem we've talked about this for over a decade now of how the install base of xboxes and the people that have their xbox accounts their gamer tags that they've had for decades and the games that they've bought and the

experiences that they have achievements and all of that there right and it's like now there is this shift of well there's PC Xbox and then there's Xbox console and those are not the same thing no matter how much they say this is an Xbox there are two separate Xboxes and I continue to say this but until Xbox just and they're so they're knocking on the goddamn door of this and they've been knocking on the door of it they need to be like we're the number one gaming publisher in the world that's what we are

Don't think of us as hardware anymore.

We have hardware.

Not the point.

Not what we're pushing.

Until they give up the ghost there, I think it's going to be this confusing mess and stuff.

Because I think the sooner they jump on to supporting the Steam ecosystem, supporting all these others, which they are doing currently, but...