Tim Hardaway

They wanted to get out and get out and have some fun and come in when they wanted to come in and do that, all that type of stuff.

So my kids was ambitious from the first get-go.

Because, you know, they—

First of all, you're with a family that we go out of town.

We do stuff every summer.

We go somewhere.

We have fun two or three times a summer.

So my kids were used to going places, doing stuff, getting out, having fun, enjoying themselves, not being in front of a TV, not being in front of a laptop or iPad.

We was out doing stuff as a family or being at a –

you know, AAU basketball game as a family when he was watching Tim.

Tim, your son.

Your son.

Yeah, Tim, my son.

He was like, what, a junior in high school?

Junior in high school.

No, you know what, going like his –

His, what was that?

His going into his freshman year in college.

Freshman year in college, that's when he knew that he could beat me.

He kind of like stutter-stepped, and I went for the stutter-step, and he kind of crossed me over.