Tim Heidecker

But when we're back there writing this child clown sketch, it's like, it's pure absurdity.

Like, there's no such thing as a child clown, you know?

It doesn't exist.

Except when I was eight and it was Halloween and we only had three costumes to choose from, you know?

And you look at it now and you go, yeah, I guess, you know, I could see you taking this the wrong way.

But at the time, we were just making each other laugh, you know?

So I'm not here to defend it.

But it was very funny to see him get riled up about that stuff, for sure.

Sure.

Yeah, it was a little like I described it as kind of the last gasps of a dying whale.

Yeah, beached whale energy.

Also, visually, a little beached whale vibes.

Yeah, there is.

Yeah, you're right.

It was like, I almost wish we had gotten to this early, you know, sooner.

I mean, for sure, we should have gotten to this sooner.

But he does feel like, I mean, that whole movement is so fractured.

He's at war with Trump every other day.

There's certain things he kind of gets close to being right about or he kind of like he's on our side right now apparently with the war in Iran and thinks that's a bad idea.

So, you know, he's shifting and changing probably for cynical reasons or whatever.