Tim Hogan

We start messing around with ideas that people aren't comfortable with. In the past, it's been kind of dangerous, you know? Yeah.

We start messing around with ideas that people aren't comfortable with. In the past, it's been kind of dangerous, you know? Yeah.

We start messing around with ideas that people aren't comfortable with. In the past, it's been kind of dangerous, you know? Yeah.

So I'm the Grand Master. I'm the Grand Master of the Order of the Sovereign Temple of Initiates, which is just like a modern conglomerate of different Templar lineages. When I say lineages, when the Templar Order was suppressed in 1307, it had to go underground. And it survived in different pockets.

So I'm the Grand Master. I'm the Grand Master of the Order of the Sovereign Temple of Initiates, which is just like a modern conglomerate of different Templar lineages. When I say lineages, when the Templar Order was suppressed in 1307, it had to go underground. And it survived in different pockets.

So I'm the Grand Master. I'm the Grand Master of the Order of the Sovereign Temple of Initiates, which is just like a modern conglomerate of different Templar lineages. When I say lineages, when the Templar Order was suppressed in 1307, it had to go underground. And it survived in different pockets.

In different areas. And those pockets kind of grew independently. And at different periods of time, they've kind of come back together. And then at other times, they've separated again. So there's... about half a dozen strains of Templar lineages out there. But they all come together in the Order of the Temple of Sovereign Initiates, which I'm the head of.

In different areas. And those pockets kind of grew independently. And at different periods of time, they've kind of come back together. And then at other times, they've separated again. So there's... about half a dozen strains of Templar lineages out there. But they all come together in the Order of the Temple of Sovereign Initiates, which I'm the head of.

In different areas. And those pockets kind of grew independently. And at different periods of time, they've kind of come back together. And then at other times, they've separated again. So there's... about half a dozen strains of Templar lineages out there. But they all come together in the Order of the Temple of Sovereign Initiates, which I'm the head of.

Like when you were a child or were your parents into this stuff? Yeah. Yeah, my dad was. My grandparents were on both sides of my family. And yeah, I was brought into it at eight. How so? Were you initiated? Yeah, I was initiated at eight. What was that like? Well, it was a page initiation. I thought... I was led into a council. There was a bunch of people dressed in cloaks and stuff.

Like when you were a child or were your parents into this stuff? Yeah. Yeah, my dad was. My grandparents were on both sides of my family. And yeah, I was brought into it at eight. How so? Were you initiated? Yeah, I was initiated at eight. What was that like? Well, it was a page initiation. I thought... I was led into a council. There was a bunch of people dressed in cloaks and stuff.

Like when you were a child or were your parents into this stuff? Yeah. Yeah, my dad was. My grandparents were on both sides of my family. And yeah, I was brought into it at eight. How so? Were you initiated? Yeah, I was initiated at eight. What was that like? Well, it was a page initiation. I thought... I was led into a council. There was a bunch of people dressed in cloaks and stuff.

Adults totally freaked me out. I didn't know what was going on. I was put before this council. They basically said that I had fulfilled my duties of becoming a page and I had to take an oath of chivalry. And then I had to kneel and they dubbed me as a page.

Adults totally freaked me out. I didn't know what was going on. I was put before this council. They basically said that I had fulfilled my duties of becoming a page and I had to take an oath of chivalry. And then I had to kneel and they dubbed me as a page.

Adults totally freaked me out. I didn't know what was going on. I was put before this council. They basically said that I had fulfilled my duties of becoming a page and I had to take an oath of chivalry. And then I had to kneel and they dubbed me as a page.

But I will tell you, as an eight-year-old, when you see a guy coming up in front of you and you're kneeling and he has a big sword, I thought I was going to be like a sacrifice or something. It was terrifying at first. Did you have to kiss the silver head? No, I didn't have to kiss the silver head. But they, you know, they... They dubbed me, and that was the beginning of the journey. Wow.

But I will tell you, as an eight-year-old, when you see a guy coming up in front of you and you're kneeling and he has a big sword, I thought I was going to be like a sacrifice or something. It was terrifying at first. Did you have to kiss the silver head? No, I didn't have to kiss the silver head. But they, you know, they... They dubbed me, and that was the beginning of the journey. Wow.

But I will tell you, as an eight-year-old, when you see a guy coming up in front of you and you're kneeling and he has a big sword, I thought I was going to be like a sacrifice or something. It was terrifying at first. Did you have to kiss the silver head? No, I didn't have to kiss the silver head. But they, you know, they... They dubbed me, and that was the beginning of the journey. Wow.

Yeah, it was unique. I wasn't the only one going through it, but it was... Yeah, I mean, we were given, you know, started out, you know, we were taught to certain virtues that we're supposed to embody. You know, it wasn't anything too esoteric.

Yeah, it was unique. I wasn't the only one going through it, but it was... Yeah, I mean, we were given, you know, started out, you know, we were taught to certain virtues that we're supposed to embody. You know, it wasn't anything too esoteric.