Tim Miller

Those are the kind of things I had.

What would you, of that list or otherwise, would you say is going to be the thing that has the most staying power?

china and he's been sort of captured by people are like if we don't give them the stuff they'll build it themselves and it's a ridiculous logic as far as i'm concerned but it's strange i wonder if he's got business deals there the whole thing is really it's been really eye-raising and whether it's the college campuses you know you would think that he would be more of a like that would go to the america first thing you think you do the xenophobic stuff the chinese flu the stuff he did last time that would seem to make more sense

Did Illinois get any credit, University of Illinois, for Marc Andreessen's work there when he was in the computer science department?

No, it's just all him.

It was all in the brain.

Yeah, those are good.

I should have added those to my list.

You're right about the universities and the cutting of funding.

I feel like it's something I bring up like once a week and I'm always like,

I should mention that more.

It's hard to, you know, because there is no like a cute thing happening anymore, right?

Nothing.

We didn't even cut the debt or anything.

Right, exactly.

What do you think about the staying power of this little marriage between MAGA folks and tech CEOs?

Is it a marriage of convenience that just goes away as soon as Trump goes away?

Or is there something about a pivot to the right that is inherent in what they're doing?

His appetite for authoritarianism seems to have gotten a little bit greater, but there's a little bit there always.

Yeah.