Tim Miller

I mean, the guy's heart's in the right place.

You hate to like dump on him.

I'll take it.

I can take mean things, too.

Yeah.

I think your view is a little too nice.

It's like, man, if you're running for office, I don't, like, there's no, your first instinct was correct.

Honestly, I'm sorry.

Like you can't, even if you're doing it out of good nature, like.

a lot of people it's complicated we're both very educated people you're a tenured professor we're trying to translate this it's like you're just a fucking white kid whose dad beat you and like you can't get a good job and you're like man this guy wants to be my representative but he thinks I got a virus inside of me it's just like and I just think that there was like too much of this kind of

He was trying, and we're all on a journey.

He was trying to figure it out.

I'm trying to figure it out.

I'm with you.

I'm with you.

I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm also, you know, trying to not have a MAGA dictatorship.

And it'd be nice if there'd be some people who are trying to figure it out that don't make it as easy as possible on the bad guys to hit him over the head with a bat.

I have to get asked about the stuff.

The thing that I always come back to, Jeb had a lot of stuff we disagreed with.

There's one thing he said that I liked, which is that the job of government is that we're trying to make sure people have an opportunity to live a life of purpose and meaning.