Tim Miller

I'm open to trying it.

I'm actually not – it's not my cup of tea personally, but that could be right.

My issue with it is they're very dismissive of any other possible model for winning voters.

And their model hasn't actually worked yet.

It's true the Kamala model didn't work.

We saw that.

That's true.

I don't think anybody –

is suggesting we run the Harris campaign, except maybe her.

Exactly.

The funny thing about the Kamala model, which I call the Kamala conundrum, is that it's so funny.

Moderates say, well, the problem was that she was too far left.

She was a California progressive.

And then the populist Bernie types are like, well, the problem was she did the one event with Liz Cheney, and she was too much of a corporate centrist, so she didn't appeal to anybody.

My point is, like...

They haven't done it.

The reason that there's no bench of populist lefties is because they haven't recruited successfully a candidate to go out and win a general election in a purple state or a red state.

And that's not even really Maine.

Maine is like a light blue state.

And so sometimes I look at the kind of discourse around that and I feel like kind of the Bernie left's a little bit over their skis.