Tim Miller

I was wondering what you made of his remarks earlier in the week.

Yeah, Elizabeth Warren's got a white paper, and he's selling you a monorail.

It's interesting that you said that because it was one of my observations as well.

Like, obviously, he lies all the time.

And obviously, you and I are going to disagree with the substance of whatever BS spin that he's trying to push no matter what.

But so just judging it, though, on a performance level.

Yeah.

He was always really good at the flood the zone with shit strategy at playing the tabloid game of like, hey, I'm going to get you to talk about this other thing.

You know, maybe it's going to offend the sensibilities of some people, but I know my people like it.

And now we'll get now move the conversation.

It failed completely on that score.

It was not successful as a distraction or as a performance or as something to move people to a more comfortable turf for him.

And we kind of trusted that you'd be good at this.

We never really expected Biden to be good at it.

Frankly, that's what that voter would think, right?

And you're failing.

Democracy depends on citizens who can listen, reason, and disagree without rancor.

That's what we think of the Bulwark podcast, at least.

And that's what students do every day at St.

John's College.