Tim Miller

If you're on 1.5 speed right now, you might wanna move it back down so you can understand them.

Let's listen to Ben Shapiro in Arizona.

Well, unless she's also part of the plot to murder mid-level American political commentators, which is part of the theory as well.

I agree with all that.

I guess by one note, and I've both on social media now here, I've praised everything that Ben said, no lies detected, as they say, about Candace and Tucker and Steve Bannon.

Here's the problem with it, though.

Trump is the apex predator, right?

Like Charlie was his minion, not to kill the metaphor here.

But even Ben, in those remarks, like no one benefits from and no one has yet had the gumption to just address the real issue, which is the biggest conspirator in the whole party is not Tucker or Candace, but is the president of the United States.

person screwing the economy is the president of the United States.

And the MAGA movement cannot possibly move back to sanity and sobriety and anti-grifting when the leader of it is a grifter and a conspiracist.

He's both though.

You can be both.

I want to get into the Trump corruption, but you've piqued my interest there.

How is your threat assessment going?

evolved over the course of this year on that question about our democratic stability in this moment?

I was always less worried in 2026 about kind of the voter suppression parts of their plan because a lot of times voter suppression stuff backfires.

I was more worried about a stop the steal thing more akin to what they did last time, which is that the Democrats win the House by three seats, four seats, and that Republicans in random states decide not to seat those congressmen because they claim that the mail ballots were fraudulent.

Yeah.

And to your point about like size, that becomes a less doable effort if Democrats end up winning by 12, 14, 15 seats.