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The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

And this is what the Republicans would be saying, like that he couldn't even back up his own bluster, said it was going to be unconditional surrender, ended up begging the Iranians to let him get out of the quagmire.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

The whole thing is just totally humiliating.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

And if you go back to the pre-war, it is too kind to them to say we've gotten to the pre-war status quo because.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

And A, the Strait of Hormuz will not be at the pre-war status quo and Iran will have more control over it and some kind of economic benefit from it that they didn't have before.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

But even setting the Strait aside, one of the rationales that you heard from the misguided but reasonable supporters of the war at the beginning was that this could be the moment to topple the regime because they were so weak.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

There were protests in the streets.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

The Iranian economy was in tatters.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

The Ayatollah was 100 years old.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

And, you know, there was some type of regime change coming soon anyway because he was going to die.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

You know, their proxies had been weakened by a lot of actions that Israel had been taken.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

The regime was in rough shape.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

before we bombed them and before we decapitated them.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

And now you come out of this on the back end and you have a more hardline regime that has more control over the country and they're going to have more money, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

Because they're going to have a huge influx of cash.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

Like, what is that money going to go to?

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

Do you think the money is going to go to the Iranian people?

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

Or do you think it's going to go to get more missiles and replenish the drones and support their terrorist proxies, other places?

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

That's what I think the money is going to go to.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

And just last week, also just on the way, it's worth mentioning, you said that Hegseth was bragging about all of the bombing that we did, that they not only survived, but came out the other side in a stronger negotiating position.

The Bulwark Podcast
Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

It was just Trump.

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