Tim Miller

One,

I've often compared Zorin's position on Gaza and the permission structure created in the Democratic primary in New York to Barack Obama's position on the Iraq War resolution in 2007 into 2008.

Barack Obama was on stage with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and John Edwards and all these other folks who had given Bush a blank check and Democratic primary voters were pissed off about that.

They were angry at the results of it and folks were seen to be doubling down, which made it impossible for voters to hear them on health care, on the economy, on social justice and the social contract.

Barack Obama could get to first base against Hillary Clinton because he had a moral clarity on Iraq in that moment that was deeply resonant with voters in Iowa, South Carolina, New Hampshire, etc.,

Zohra Mamdani had a moral clarity on an issue that folks were like, you know, staring at their screens on every day, whether they were getting their news from CNN or getting their information from TikTok.

They saw a set of atrocities that they were absolutely appalled by and understood that their government, Democrats and Republicans,

were making them complicit in what they were seeing on that screen because of our continued partnership with the Netanyahu regime.

And they were appalled by that.

And they heard a candidate who had absolute clarity, who knew what he believed the American people and Yorkers wanted from their government in that moment.

So yes, I agree with you that folks are not going to hear him on affordability in this moment that we're in if he is seen as illegitimate on a profound scale.

moral quandary that we found ourselves in.

That's number one.

Number two, on the conversation that he had with you, Tim, I thought he was phenomenal.

And eventually, I think it was about a week or so, I can't remember the timeline anymore, but I think it was about a week after he was on with you where he used the phrase that he would discourage folks from using that language if they cared about peaceful outcomes in the region because he had spoken to a lot of folks

who lived through not the first intifada, but the second intifada.

And he appreciated the absolute terror of the second intifada in ways that he wanted to be clear.

He would never endorse it.

He wanted to discourage people from using language that would kind of invite that level of incitement.

I think he could have answered cleaner, in a cleaner and more direct way when he was on with you.