Tim Minnshall

And it doesn't take you long to trace it all the way back to a small number of countries where they're mining things like cobalt And we don't really always know how safe, how worker-friendly those mines were. And there's some really quite bad stories about what happens in some of those very, very, very distant mines way, way down the supply chain.

So I think this idea of trying to choose a product that is good for the planet and has been well made is very tricky.

So I think this idea of trying to choose a product that is good for the planet and has been well made is very tricky.

So I think this idea of trying to choose a product that is good for the planet and has been well made is very tricky.

But now, for this generation, for us now, we have the best possible chance of understanding what's going on and shedding a bit of light onto these complex supply chains so that we can help companies, we can force companies to be better at how they manufacture things, to do it in a way that's less harmful for the planet, but also so we know we are buying a product that has been made, ideally, in the least harmful way possible.

But now, for this generation, for us now, we have the best possible chance of understanding what's going on and shedding a bit of light onto these complex supply chains so that we can help companies, we can force companies to be better at how they manufacture things, to do it in a way that's less harmful for the planet, but also so we know we are buying a product that has been made, ideally, in the least harmful way possible.

But now, for this generation, for us now, we have the best possible chance of understanding what's going on and shedding a bit of light onto these complex supply chains so that we can help companies, we can force companies to be better at how they manufacture things, to do it in a way that's less harmful for the planet, but also so we know we are buying a product that has been made, ideally, in the least harmful way possible.

Mike, many thanks for that. Really appreciated it and enjoy the rest of your day.

Mike, many thanks for that. Really appreciated it and enjoy the rest of your day.

Mike, many thanks for that. Really appreciated it and enjoy the rest of your day.