Tim Paradis

What's your sort of ROI?

And they're trying to, I think, be more, from what I can tell, clearer and maybe more specific about certain things that people got done.

So I think it's a way that maybe, if you would, mature the performance evaluation process.

So it's a good question.

I think it's a few things.

The sense that I got from talking to folks is it is partly financial, is in that they're spending an enormous amount of money on AI and AI investments.

And so it's just a huge outlay.

And as you well know, a lot of those returns have yet to bear out.

And so there's that fear that we're getting out over our skis, right, that we've seen on Wall Street even.

And then the other part of it is just the idea that

It's an employer's market.

And you can if you want to work in tech, it's pretty hard to do these days in many cases.

So they can demand more of workers without getting much pushback because they have the power.

So it's kind of a from what we could tell, a confluence of things.

I think also part of it is, if you think about it, none of this is quite settled yet, right?

We're all having this debate where some companies are saying, you know, yeah, go ahead, use AI in your interview because we just want to know that you can use this tool the same way that you'd let somebody use a calculator to show that they understand the mathematics, potentially.

Whereas others would say, absolutely not, none of this.

And so there's no real agreement yet on what's acceptable from what we can tell, at least.

And so because we're kind of in this...

figuring it out phase, it seems like there are a lot of forces at play.