Tim Ross

It's amazing.

I'm so obsessed.

Do you know, the idea came to him while he was in the shower, and the very first version was vacuum-packed flat, and when they unwrapped it, it slowly expanded to the delight of the audience.

What makes you an agitator?

You know, you did back to back elections.

Tell us about that.

I mean, we've all done things on a whim.

Yeah, but we're not Arabic classes.

But how do we align the different views of what's important for Australia in terms of the things that you're concerned about it?

You came down under the wire with the state election and then you just basically rolled around again.

How quickly was it again?

I just thought I've got some cool flutes in the garage.

I've got a website.

That's how it used to work.

People who believe in public service.

Well, it sounds to me like you are going to run again at some stage and I hope you do.

Run my mouth off.

I remember so vividly walking into your shop and having that first chat we ever had and I was overwhelmed by your kindness and we need more kindness in this world, I think.

It was very kind.

Wasn't Kate fantastic?