Tim Stenovec

And I will say, maybe this is true of all presidents.

He had this view that he could somehow jawbone people into believing that things were better than they really were.

And I think we're seeing that now, by the way, with the last administration.

That is a bipartisan tactic by the White House.

I mean, selfishly, I felt like I now understood what actually happened just as a student of history.

I actually just genuinely wanted to really get it.

I wanted to know who the people were.

I wanted to understand their incentives, what their motives were, why they were doing what they did.

And I think ultimately, the truth is that we are all human beings.

Maybe it's FOMO.

Maybe it's envy.

Maybe we all want more.

And that's, for better or worse, what seems to drive people.

And then the question is,

When people get a little too confident, you know, can you have the humility effectively to step back and realize that maybe that confidence could be misplaced?

Do I see there's humility today?

I see that humility among some.

Look, I think, you know, we also talked about Warren Buffett, Jamie Dimon and David Rubenstein were talking about Warren Buffett.

I think Warren Buffett has a remarkable humility.

And when it comes to sort of even his own confidence, he has humility about that.