Tim Stenovec

But a lot, you know, when you see two people talking to each other in a room, what's oftentimes happening is I'm finding a series of depositions, for example, where Charlie Mitchell, who's the main character of the book, ran National City, which becomes Citigroup.

You know,

He would be interviewed in the deposition or in a civil case.

There were also criminal cases where they would ask him, you know, where were you when X happened?

He'd say, well, I was walking down the street and I got to 65th Street.

And what did you say to so-and-so?

And I said such-and-such.

And then they would interview his colleague.

And they'd say, well, you were standing on the corner.

What did you say to him?

And he would say, this is what I said.

And then they'd interview his wife.

And so...

And all of those quotes are real.

And then oftentimes I would go and try to find the architecture plans or a photograph of the room so I could really try to put you in it.

And I'd try to understand what the weather was that day and whether it was light out or not.

All of these sort of little things so that, again, if you're trying to, as a narrator, you can sort of feel like you're there.

You know what?

It was like... Or is it just so piecemeal?

No, it was like it would either be...