Tim Stenovec

Yeah.

universities I was able to convince after a lot of knocking on doors the Federal Reserve in New York to give me access to the board minutes that was something that they haven't given out over the past hundred years they by the way interesting on their website today you can get

you know, last month's board minutes.

You still can't get the 1929 board minutes.

But that sort of became a treasure map for me.

But a lot, you know, when you see two people talking to each other in a room, what's oftentimes happening is I'm finding a series of depositions, for example, where Charlie Mitchell, who's the main character of the book, ran National City, which becomes Citigroup.

You know,

He would be interviewed in the deposition or in a civil case.

There were also criminal cases where they would ask him, you know, where were you when X happened?

He'd say, well, I was walking down the street and I got to 65th Street.

And what did you say to so-and-so?

And I said such-and-such.

And then they would interview his colleague.

And they'd say, well, you were standing on the corner.

What did you say to him?

And he would say, this is what I said.

And then they'd interview his wife.

And so...

And all of those quotes are real.

And then oftentimes I would go and try to find the architecture plans or a photograph of the room so I could really try to put you in it.