Tim Walz

We can't be them.

We can't do what they do.

I don't want to be them.

I don't want to do what they do.

But I mean, I do see the reaction and I, you know, there's some, I think, sense to it, which is,

If you hold back, if you don't change your tactics, we're going to wind up with the same situation and the same result, and we're going to keep moving down this terrible road because we sit here on principle, and they sit here, and they just keep doing what they need to do to move the ball forward without care for that stuff.

It's inconvenient for them, and they don't care about it.

Should we continue to care about it, or do we need to change our tactics and realize some new world is here?

Yeah, I think you're right.

We can't give up, right?

But I will say, that's why I brought up the five-year-old kidnapped by ICE story.

That's one where I can understand if you're a left-winger, right?

You see these pictures of a five-year-old in ICE custody, and you're like, oh my gosh, they're picking up kids.

If you're on that side of the...

the aisle.

And that's how you view this as a negative thing.

We're not allowed to enforce our immigration law, but you see them taking a five-year-old into custody.

I can understand how your immediate reaction to that would be, oh my gosh, they're out of control.

This is crazy.

And when I could get that, but when you take a few seconds and you actually understand what has occurred here, which is the parent of this child, who is an illegal immigrant, ran from authorities and abandoned their child.