Tina Brown

That is a quote.

And I just was like so...

bummed by the whole thing.

And I must say, one of the things I find exciting at the moment, actually, is the fact to see Barry Weiss, who's created the Free Press and has sold it now to the Ellisons for $150 million and has gone on to run CBS.

I thought that's just so great that she was able to

be heard, essentially, as someone whose business concept was right and correct and interesting.

So she shows, I think, the difference in the eras, if you like.

Well, I mean, I think Barry saw the rise of

irritation with woke culture, as it was said.

And she wrote it to the top, if you know what I mean.

She created sort of free press around that irritation, if you like, and did it very well.

She has a bigger challenge now that the Trump world has turned that whole concept into something so much more ugly, frankly.

And I think that's going to be a real challenge for her, actually, because

Now she's running, but being put in charge in CBS.

What is she going to do when the first call comes from the White House telling her they hate the story that's in preparation, you know, and she is supposed to be defending journalism?

I think that's going to be very, very difficult, frankly, for her.

And if I'd been advising her, I would have said, take the money for the free press, but don't get involved with CBS.

But she didn't ask my opinion on that.

Well, I actually didn't read it because I'd heard so much about it that by the time I got it, I sort of didn't want to read it.

Look, I left behind a whole team.