Tina Brown

For us, absolutely none.

And that is my major beef, you know, essentially with the digital barons.

I am probably burning with resentment about it at all times, actually.

Really?

Yes, absolutely.

I find it intolerable, to be honest, because I have such respect for journalists and, for instance,

investigative journalism to the point that you know i was married to a great journalist harry evans and i started a foundation in his name and a fellowship for young people who are good investigative journalists so i have a strong belief in our profession and uh it's a very proud profession

And I don't like seeing it being turned into this kind of commodity by people who I would have thought one or two of them might care about it.

You know, you think one or two of them would care, but they don't seem to.

You know, it's tragic.

I mean, we got it all from Roy Cohn, didn't we?

Which is like, never apologize, just...

say whatever you want and never admit that you're wrong and keep your mind on, you know, the only thing that's important, which is the deal and the money.

And I mean, I actually think that Trump this time has really decided that this is going to be

about collecting the biggest hole that he can.

You know, in days when there was more of a collective media, you could do a big story about, say, you know, the corruption of the current Trump administration, and people would have read it and talked about it and paid attention to it.

I think today, it often doesn't land, this stuff, because people are reading different things.

I mean, they're not reading the same thing.

So...

He's understood this, and this is where Trump is really brilliant.