Tina Brown

Well, he decided, I think, that instead he would go on a kind of blitz about his philanthropy, which he did.

I mean, from that day he was sort of constantly sending out releases about all this philanthropy he was doing.

And I think he thought he'd sort of got away with it.

What changed, of course...

I think, was Me Too.

When Julie Brown did her brilliant series in the Miami Herald, that was after Me Too.

And after Me Too, people began to be much, much more focused on abuse of powerful men of young women.

So I think at the time that we published it, Epstein wasn't that well-known.

It was a kind of insider social story.

He was some guy, rich circuit, nobody really knew Jeffrey Epstein, you know.

It went away very quickly, and I think it shows how times have very much changed.

Things have changed, I'm glad to say.

society is poverty which is just incredibly callous no it is true and listen i was invited to um a dinner after he had been convicted the publicist uh called me in the office at the daily beast and she said tina i want you to come to this great dinner where i'm hosting and she said uh it's a jeffrey epstein's house and the other guests are charlie rose woody allen and prince andrew

I mean, it really does make you laugh.

It's a fabulous part.

This is the one that's profiled in this piece.

That's right.

And it's very funny because Lloyd Grove, who's a journalist at The Beast, who reminds me whenever I see him, he was sitting right there when I yelled into the phone, what the hell is this, the predator's ball?

You know, because I was outraged that she hadn't seemed to have read our pieces about this guy.

No, thank you very much.