Tina Moore
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They can do just basic, I mean, they can actually get a lot done because good old fashioned basic naturopathic medicine is very powerful, but they can't prescribe, they can't diagnose, et cetera. Some places I don't even think they can order imaging or labs, but They are, there's some oversight, right? There's some oversight. I think Colorado, I think Washington, D.C. has this kind of setup.
They can do just basic, I mean, they can actually get a lot done because good old fashioned basic naturopathic medicine is very powerful, but they can't prescribe, they can't diagnose, et cetera. Some places I don't even think they can order imaging or labs, but They are, there's some oversight, right? There's some oversight. I think Colorado, I think Washington, D.C. has this kind of setup.
And then there's totally unlicensed states where it's the Wild West and there are people there who are fake NDs calling themselves doctor. And then here's a fun one. There are other states trying to get licensed. The naturopathic doctors, the real naturopathic doctors in those states are trying to get those states licensed.
And then there's totally unlicensed states where it's the Wild West and there are people there who are fake NDs calling themselves doctor. And then here's a fun one. There are other states trying to get licensed. The naturopathic doctors, the real naturopathic doctors in those states are trying to get those states licensed.
And then there's totally unlicensed states where it's the Wild West and there are people there who are fake NDs calling themselves doctor. And then here's a fun one. There are other states trying to get licensed. The naturopathic doctors, the real naturopathic doctors in those states are trying to get those states licensed.
But there are fake NDs in those states who've been there for so long and have such a stronghold, even politically and connections. And I've heard this firsthand from doctors trying to actually get their states licensed that they have to basically grandfather them in and allow them to continue to call themselves Dr. So-and-so ND, even though they're complete fakes. How's that one for you?
But there are fake NDs in those states who've been there for so long and have such a stronghold, even politically and connections. And I've heard this firsthand from doctors trying to actually get their states licensed that they have to basically grandfather them in and allow them to continue to call themselves Dr. So-and-so ND, even though they're complete fakes. How's that one for you?
But there are fake NDs in those states who've been there for so long and have such a stronghold, even politically and connections. And I've heard this firsthand from doctors trying to actually get their states licensed that they have to basically grandfather them in and allow them to continue to call themselves Dr. So-and-so ND, even though they're complete fakes. How's that one for you?
So this is where we're at. Whose fault is it? I don't know. I've tried to get my profession to stand up and do something against this for decades. They won't. I've tried to get the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians to take action. I've tried to get state associations to take action and it doesn't seem to ever go anywhere. So
So this is where we're at. Whose fault is it? I don't know. I've tried to get my profession to stand up and do something against this for decades. They won't. I've tried to get the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians to take action. I've tried to get state associations to take action and it doesn't seem to ever go anywhere. So
So this is where we're at. Whose fault is it? I don't know. I've tried to get my profession to stand up and do something against this for decades. They won't. I've tried to get the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians to take action. I've tried to get state associations to take action and it doesn't seem to ever go anywhere. So
I know everybody's probably doing the best they can do, but whose fault is it that there's fake NDs running around? It's our fault. It's our fault as a profession. We did not bring the kibosh down hard enough when this all was happening. My mentor tried hard. He called them undies. These are the fake NDs.
I know everybody's probably doing the best they can do, but whose fault is it that there's fake NDs running around? It's our fault. It's our fault as a profession. We did not bring the kibosh down hard enough when this all was happening. My mentor tried hard. He called them undies. These are the fake NDs.
I know everybody's probably doing the best they can do, but whose fault is it that there's fake NDs running around? It's our fault. It's our fault as a profession. We did not bring the kibosh down hard enough when this all was happening. My mentor tried hard. He called them undies. These are the fake NDs.
He tried very hard to get rid of them and to no avail because it's, you know, it needs to be a unified organization. Force, so many licensed professionals like chiropractors, dentists, or even medical doctors, this is the other confusing part. They can call themselves doctor because they're real, but then they go get a fake ND on top of it. So how's that for... Fun.
He tried very hard to get rid of them and to no avail because it's, you know, it needs to be a unified organization. Force, so many licensed professionals like chiropractors, dentists, or even medical doctors, this is the other confusing part. They can call themselves doctor because they're real, but then they go get a fake ND on top of it. So how's that for... Fun.
He tried very hard to get rid of them and to no avail because it's, you know, it needs to be a unified organization. Force, so many licensed professionals like chiropractors, dentists, or even medical doctors, this is the other confusing part. They can call themselves doctor because they're real, but then they go get a fake ND on top of it. So how's that for... Fun.
So I know many chiropractors who are real doctors, Dr. So-and-so DC, but then they go get a fake ND. So now they are DC ND. Just like me, they have the same letters behind their name, but we did not have the same clinical training whatsoever. And they did not go through a four-year ND school and they did not collect the $200,000 student loan bill.
So I know many chiropractors who are real doctors, Dr. So-and-so DC, but then they go get a fake ND. So now they are DC ND. Just like me, they have the same letters behind their name, but we did not have the same clinical training whatsoever. And they did not go through a four-year ND school and they did not collect the $200,000 student loan bill.
So I know many chiropractors who are real doctors, Dr. So-and-so DC, but then they go get a fake ND. So now they are DC ND. Just like me, they have the same letters behind their name, but we did not have the same clinical training whatsoever. And they did not go through a four-year ND school and they did not collect the $200,000 student loan bill.