Tina Provis

But I think one of the reasons why their breakup was so, so public, there's a few different reasons.

One is that like we had song lyrics to fall back on.

And as anyone who's daily Taylor Swift or any musician knows, that's going to get you every time because she was like, please don't embarrass me.

And everyone's like, and he did.

And that was like a battle cry that people got really ferocious about.

Yeah.

Well, I guess that's the thing about a good song when you're like, yeah, that just hits in the right place.

There's some lyrics that are just universal and they're usually about heartbreak.

They're always about that.

One thing I thought was super interesting is he was talking about, and he never gets into like the depths of him and Sabrina, but like,

If anyone knows anything about their relationship, you can kind of read between the lines of when they broke up.

There was a huge amount of allegations that he had cheated on her.

And she never came out and said it, but sometimes she would be on stage.

She was on stage in Ireland once, and she was sort of joking about not wanting to date Irish boys again, that they were kind of like a bit of a bad idea.

um it'll just like really look at how she a lot of people probably share that thought yeah and exactly and she was you know she was catering to her audience and stuff but she never said the words barry cheated on me but what did happen that he brought up in this interview that i thought was really interesting is he said that a video went out from a woman who said that he had cheated with her and that did go everywhere and what he said i thought was really interesting and something we bring up on this pod a lot is that he said she then released a retraction video saying that she she was a liar and she made it up but no one picked up on that which is

so the case when these stories kind of they break they come out they burn hot and bright and a lot of times when something like that or a rumor or a misunderstanding or something happens there is another part of the story that comes later whether it's a retraction a clarification someone saying they were lying like the full interview being released there's always a second part to the story but the second part of the story never gets the same traction as the first I think it says a lot about how people consume things as well like even when you see a headline you may actually not have

Yeah, exactly.

And that's why we say, like, people do just read the headlines.

And a lot of the time I'm just like, well, sometimes with, like, fame and money and everything, like, that is sort of just unfortunately, like, the price you pay.

But I thought it was really interesting where he was like, this woman came out and gave a retraction.