Tina Smith

Of course, these things all have impact

But, you know, there was another part of it for me, which is that I'm going to—I'm, what is my, 68, roughly?

I will be 68 next year.

Pretty young for a Democratic senator.

Yes, it is.

And, you know, I am not burdened by the belief that I am the only one who can do this job.

I feel really confident in the bench that is there in Minnesota to carry on.

And I'm actually quite invigorated by making space for those leaders to step in.

That's right.

I don't think it's gone either.

And I haven't given up hope on that, Joe.

I believe that it's still there.

I mean, this is what Mitch McConnell said.

Like, my purpose is to beat Obama.

And gradually, the partisanship just ramped up.

I think it's – my sense of it is that I completely agree with Jeff that behind the scenes you will hear many Republicans in the Senate say –

I don't like this.

I don't think this is right.

But then they also say, we're just waiting for the right moment.

We're waiting for the right moment to actually do something about it.