TMZ

Yeah, we just thought actually about doing only an online release.

We didn't really thought about actually doing a physical release last year until kind of late in the process.

And then we were just like, okay, what if we do it?

You know, can we do it?

Do we have some budget?

Can we talk to some people?

So we were able to raise some funds and we were able to get 500 copies down to Vegas.

Yeah, it was a very interesting first experience on logistics because releasing a physical copy of things, it's not as easy as it sounds like.

Not only like you have to actually make the material, but you know, the distribution, especially at EFCON.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we had a few of them downstairs, right?

And then we're just like, yeah, sure.

But we kind of wanted a place more centralized for that.

And it was very nice to get some of the copies there at the party, at the Dark Nadaris party.

People really liked it.

And I remember a lot of people were so happy.

And I think that's what made me feel very realized.

That's why I was like,

a lot of people, they looked at it and they looked at it as the most precious thing that I ever touched.

Like, you know, they say, yeah, I'm here and I like what I do now because of Frock like 25 years ago, 30 years ago.