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Tobi Lütke

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1443 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

There were like eight or something in 2008, eight people.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

We made some money, and I still had some savings from Snow Devil, but I wasn't taking a salary.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And we were just living with my in-laws in their house, Fiona and I. And so we kept costs down.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

It was hard to meet payroll.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

I went to Silicon Valley finally and just started fundraising.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

I had learned how to do all this, and I did have a pitch deck and so on.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

You know, ultimately, people passed for one reason or another on the company.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And a very important big venture capital firm that everyone would recognize passed on the Shopify deal.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And years later, I met with the partners again.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And the partner asked, like, hey, Tobi, what did we miss?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

I was reminded, you passed because you decide for yourself that there's a global market of 40,000 online stores.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

This was the internet at the time in 2008.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

There's 40,000.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And if Shopify is successful, it might get 50% of the market.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

That's like...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

still not enough business to justify the valuation, which would have been very low.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

So what did we miss?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Okay, here's what we missed is that Shopify itself was the solution to the very problem that they stated.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

There was only 40,000 online stores.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Because no one made it easy to start them.