Tobi Lütke

And if the obstacle wouldn't have happened, you know what it's like to be an entrepreneur.

It's a roller coaster.

It's ups and downs.

It's like valleys and peaks over and over again.

And sometimes in the valleys,

it gets pretty close, right?

Like there's pretty dark days in anyone's entrepreneurial journey.

So again, I think falling in love with a mission or at least falling in love with being on a mission with people you really care about, doing difficult things for worthy people is an incredibly fun thing to do.

In fact, I think it's kind of an optimal thing

way to spend your life really and um uh i think we've succeeded significantly today we have plenty of competition i'm not gonna say we don't we have no competition left it's like it all came back and it's like again much more easy to study what other people doing ai is like changing everything and there's not a company um that's safe in the world and i love it it's so much easier

It is so much easier.

It's so much better.

It's so much more fun.

It's so much more creative.

It's so much more driven.

I mean, I get to, like, I saw many transitions in my career of the technology world.

I saw the internet arrive, basically.

I saw Web 2.0, which, whatever that is.

I saw, you know, like, the mobile phone coming.

And now...