Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Tobi Lütke

👤 Speaker
1443 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And he sort of made a study of optimists throughout time.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And the conclusion of the book is...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Everyone who made future predictions that they're optimistic was ridiculed, underperformed the people who were naysayers about the future.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Very much so.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Got a lot of shit for it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And all of them were too pessimistic for the future that actually ended up happening on every issue they were optimistic about.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

So it's like, it's funny.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

We just have a bias towards the negative.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And so, you know, I'm long-term optimistic, but I think the reason why we end up in before optimistic outcomes is because the high agency pessimists help us steer us around the problems, right?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

So like the pessimists are really, really important as well.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

So, you know, I think this is how it composes.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

I mean, we talked about AI earlier.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Clearly, I mean, from an individual perspective, there's going to be a lot of disruption.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

But from a society perspective, there's just a lot to like that we might get to.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And frankly, it's there anyway.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

So, like, even, like, this is not even, like...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

You can't stop it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

But I think there's a lot of people talking about the negative downsides without the clear and kind of amazing things that could happen.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And so I think it's worth keeping those in mind, too.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

In industry, it's a bit more of a mix.