Tobi Lütke

Nice.

So there's a lot of ignorance that has also led to committing myself to this particular course of action, but it's also like I wouldn't trade it for the world.

I just, so, I mean, again, I do believe in craft.

I do believe in honing craft.

I'm sure you and I will find lots and lots of agreement there.

It's like deliberate practice and just like...

I find, again, it just matters what you do, then it doesn't matter as well.

And it's not just that you have to be on.

The way you do anything is how you do everything is another way to put this.

To me, my core craft is computer programming.

It's not what I spend really most or any of my day doing at work, but it's the specialization by which I came into everything else that I then learned.

And so it's like the trunk of the tree of my knowledge.

It's like engineering principles and programming is the trunk, and any of my business skills is a branch, and then what people sort of observe from outside are the leaves, if you will, if you want to follow the metaphor.

I want to still grow my trunk.

I want to understand and play with tools.

I want to go and spend the Saturday evening sometimes just rebuilding something that I built in the past just to see what I've learned and if I can do it better now.

and have these kind of projects.

This is especially useful if you are building something that's going to take a long period of time.

It's like there's no attention on it.

It's like it doesn't matter.