Tobi Lütke

And...

So, you know, sort of the school of hard knocks was kind of hard to reproduce.

So we did a lot of this with, you know, I just got them to play way too hard video games, like together as a team, you know, like basically inducing chaos and problem solving.

And, you know, Dungeons & Dragons, my wife ran a Dungeons & Dragons campaign with them, which was like designed to be really hard.

And so it's like this kind of stuff.

So this is other things we prioritized and it helped.

I want to break the idea as early as possible with my kids that the world just is.

Everything is changeable.

Everything is improvable.

Everything around them is designed by people

who are no more intelligent than they are and potentially didn't even care as much about the thing as they care right now as kids because there's nothing more real than a kid that's all in into something.

They don't do that for any kind of external or extrinsic approval.

It's all intrinsic and true.

And...

The real motto of our family is really that it's a super simple sentence.

It's just everything is interesting.

And so we don't allow our kids to say things like that they're not good at something.

They can only say they're not yet good at something.

They correct each other at this point.

It's like, I'm no good at public speaking.