Toby Green

And we've been in all of those games.

I would think if you take out win-loss...

So welcome back, Phil.

Good morning, Gerard.

Nice to be back.

We both had a little week off and we're refreshed.

I think we should start and everyone should start in the first place is with Elijah and ensuring that he's okay, he's got the support that he needs.

I think we all were, you know, feeling for him when we saw the footage and then the flow and effects has been quite significant and you can only imagine

what a destabilizing week it's been for him coming up to now.

It wasn't great footage from what we've seen.

The stories don't help or add to it.

However, it is part and parcel of a $2 billion industry with such media interest that it will always get legs of its own.

So I think, first of all, it's all about Elijah, ensuring that he's got the support I feel for him and his family.

So I hope they're going, okay, let's give him the support, give him the best chance.

to be the best version of himself going forward, not just in the near term.

I think secondly, you then elevate at Carlton and you ask yourself, were they aware?

Why were they not aware?

Or why did they do nothing?

And I think when you think about it from that lens, you either go, A, if they weren't aware,

Why not?