Toby Green

I think if you look at Kate Hall being stepped up a few years ago, there's some expansion that can be done there.

So there's definitely some framework there.

And this is not to say that the AFL haven't done all these things.

I just think there needs to be a shift.

There needs to be a shift with the growing demands and requirements.

And then there's an element of oversight and governance that's required to ensure that when you advance the overall system and structure,

it then flows how it should.

Yeah, I think, first of all, you say thank you to Dave for going up and banging the fort and building a football club that's had the success that it's had and also in the challenges.

I think he'd be the first to admit that he's a bit sleep deprived after 15 years.

But, uh, it's, it's 15 years.

I should, I should hop on that for a second.

Well, I, it's an incredibly long tenure for a CEO, but secondly, a very long tenure for an interim CEO, which is where he started.

So way back when the AFL Demetrio set up, so I could just help us out.

You know, we had a CEO, he left and we had a bit of a transition period.

And basically Dave was up there for, I think it was like three to six months just to settle down maybe the first year.

And then before we knew it was a three year extension and then him and Jane, the family.

were there.

And if you think about, I think about his children, you know, Jack, his eldest, I think I met him when he was eight and now he's just about to finish uni in Canberra.

So you sort of get to this very long time when you get touch point.

And I think, you know, apart from a personal level where I think, you know, he's been a great contributor to my own development, what he's done to the game and, and what's been a really difficult task.