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Toby Ord

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
269 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

At the other end, a good example of long timelines is E. Jerdil, co-founder of Epoch AI, whose median time for the full automation of remote work is 2045, 20 years away.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

While experts continue to disagree on when AI will start having transformative impacts, they are clearly not stubbornly ignoring the evidence.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

For as Helen Toner explained in her great essay, long the timelines to advanced AI have gotten crazy short.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Before of ChatGPT, short timelines used to mean something like 10 to 20 years, so since it could take a long time to prepare, we should start now.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Long timelines used to mean that there was no sign AGI will happen in the next 30 years, if it happened this century at all, so it is premature to do any work related to controlling advanced AI.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

But now we see short timelines like Dario Amadei's with genius-level AI are almost certain to happen within the next five years, and many staunch proponents of long timelines are now saying we'll reach human level in just 10 or 20 years.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Here's a nice graph 80,000 hours put together of how the average forecasted time until AGI on the Metaculous prediction site has shortened from about 50 years to about 5 years in just a 5-year window.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

There's an image here.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Broad timelines.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

So everyone is updating on the evidence and shortening their timelines, yet substantial disagreement remains.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

This is often framed as a debate.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

That we should be trying to assess who is right, whether timelines really are short or long, or medium.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

People pick winners, affiliate with one side or the other, and rub it in whenever the latest evidence favours their preferred camp.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

My central claim today is that for most of us, that is the wrong frame.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

You should have neither short timelines nor long timelines, but broad timelines.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

The correct epistemic response to the lasting expert disagreement is to have a broad distribution over AI timelines.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

First, there is too much disagreement among very smart and informed people for it to be reasonable to have a narrow range of possible years.