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Toby Ord

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
269 total appearances

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

You can see the wild variation in individual forecasts, the thin lines, and that the timelines became about 30% shorter in a single year.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

But vast uncertainty remains.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

The aggregate community forecasts, the thick lines, have 80% intervals ranging from years to centuries.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

I think everyone should have a distribution that is roughly this shape.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

There's an image here.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

It is for transformative AI, loosely defined as AI that would be powerful enough to take over the world where it misaligned, and which is doubling the rate of scientific and technological progress.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

It's a similar shape to Coco Taljo's, but broader, with a median of 2038 and an 80% interval ranging from 3 years to 100 years.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Let's return to where we started, with Daniel Cocoteljo's distribution for AI that is at least as good as top human experts at virtually all cognitive tasks.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

There's an image here.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

While we often express our timelines as single numbers, such as the mode or the median, I don't think that's a helpful approach here.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Look at that graph.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

What number sums it up?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Its only real feature is the peak, but Cocotaljo is saying it is unlikely to happen by then, just a 27% chance.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

The median is often a better number to give, but here it is at a relatively undistinguished point on the graph, in 4 years' time, and saying for years would obscure his point that he thinks there is a 10% chance it is within 1 year and a 10% chance it is beyond 25 years.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

I think that if he talked through what he actually means by this distribution with a smart policymaker, they would finally get it and say, Oh, so you are saying you have no idea when it will happen.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

It could be next year, or it could be six presidential terms from now.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

and you're saying there is a 1 in 5 chance it isn't even in that range.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

I think that's actually a pretty good summary, and it would sum up my own distribution as well.