Todd McShay

And I had such a high grade on him.

These are two, these are the two guys that based off of my grades coming out of college should be up with like Stafford may love, you know, in that range.

That's what I'm saying.

And there's a little bit more F you to his game.

Yeah.

Do you know what I mean?

Like in that moment and it can go awry, you know, but he's, he's dialed that in a lot and he's capable of making a mistake.

I still in a pressure moment that you just don't know, but,

I just, if you need one, I think, I mean, I definitely want Caleb under center more than Lawrence.

I was going down to Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl.

I think it was the McShay show, the first time we went on the road, right?

Yeah.

And I got the list from Jim Nagy, who was the executive director at the time, and I hadn't watched.

I'd seen all the quarterbacks and studied them.

I hadn't done much on Shuck, so I did a little bit prior to that.

During the week, I really liked them, and then I came back before the Combine.

And I went in like full on diving in film room, then like got to know, you know, talk to some people, some scouts about his background, what he's been through.

And it just clicked for me.

I'm like, why not?

He's more emotionally mature and has been through more.